[Dart Vader]

Originally Posted by jerry clayton

Well after talking to the Dart guys last year after they got the SHP block in production, and getting the ball rolling on the possibility of a SHP LT block that could go over 427 inches with cam in stock location(opti), sending them a lt block and front cover, many discussions, I am a little more than just dissappointed---We currently have 3 LT engines in our shop for rebuild/updates and they will go back together as stock blocks.
However, I am interested in getting the block/ front cover sent back with our next order of blocks and any info you may have as to what is the major stumbling blocks to the project---if the idea of MAJOR improvements over and above the SHP platform was the deciding obsitcals, then I ask WHAT IF it was limited to SHP level?
Jerry

If you've got some stuff still out here just give us a call.

As far as stumbling blocks... it wasn't so much the extent of the improvements, if we're going to make tooling, we will make it right. It was more that the market wasn't there. We had been speaking to the engine builders, warehouses, racers and dealers about it when they called to place orders and the demand just wasn't there, very few of them were interested in it, sadly.

[joelster]

How many pre-orders would you have had to get to make it a reality?

How many would you have to sell every year (projected) to keep the program alive and going forward?

[want-a-be]

Originally Posted by Dart Vader

As far as stumbling blocks... it wasn't so much the extent of the improvements, if we're going to make tooling, we will make it right. It was more that the market wasn't there. We had been speaking to the engine builders, warehouses, racers and dealers about it when they called to place orders and the demand just wasn't there, very few of them were interested in it, sadly.

Which was the point I was trying to make.

Don

[want-a-be]

Originally Posted by Awesome Bill

I won't be crying for sure!

Ditto....

Don

[joelster]

I'm glad to see that so many of you are happy that this program was cancelled.

I wonder how much the tooling cost for this:

http://www.dartheads.com/products/sp...gsr-heads.html

I would guess that the market for that is significantly lower than an LT1.

I wonder how many of these they sell:

http://www.dartheads.com/products/en.../honda-blocks/

[want-a-be]

I've just never jumped on the LT1 band wagon.

If in your opinion the tooling is so cheap then you ought to persue the project yourself and be the first to market. You'll make a mint sounds like to me. Sweep that cash out from under Dart. Take down that big Goliath manufacturer.

Don

[joelster]

Originally Posted by want-a-be

I've just never jumped on the LT1 band wagon.

If in your opinion the tooling is so cheap then you ought to persue the project yourself and be the first to market. You'll make a mint sounds like to me. Sweep that cash out from under Dart. Take down that big Goliath manufacturer.

Don

I never said the tooling was "cheap". I have no idea what it would cost them. I said that they already have an excellent model to build from in the sbc SHP block. Most of the tooling is already done. I found it amusing that they would build a Honda block and cylinder head which is 100% new to them for a dead market (yes the Honda import scene is fading) and charge $2600 for a block when the stock Honda block can handle very high-hp. This Honda block caters to an extremely small percentage of the Honda guys. The guys who are looking at making 600+hp.

[want-a-be]

never was a fan of the tuner stuff ether. Doesn't surprise it's fading.

Don

[jerry clayton]

Don--what are you a fan of????

[want-a-be]

LOL,...I'm a fan of a lot of things. But what I like really doesn't, or shouldn't matter anyways. What matters is what you like, my opinion shouldn't matter to anyone at all, but me that is.

Don